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When Bill Clinton was running against Bob Dole, the left told us that Vietnam was ancient history. WWII was even more ancient history. It didn't matter that Bob Dole was a decorated disabled war hero in the one war that almost everyone agrees was just. It didn't matter that Bill Clinton was alleged to be a draft dodger. It was all about the economy, stupid. Fast forward 8 years and Terry McAuliffe and the rest of the left in a Kerry-esque flip flop want us to believe that Vietnam does matter. Accusations that George W. Bush was allegedly AWOL from his national guard post that he had only gotten by having his family pull strings were everywhee. Meanwhile, Kerry and his supporters could not say enough times that John Kerry is a decorated war hero. He built his campaign on it. Then, yesterday, comes this from the Swiftboat Veterans for Truth. Now the Democrats are crying foul and screaming about politicizing military service. Which is pretty hypocritcal, considering that they made Kerry's service the centerpiece of his campaign while attacking Bush on his guard duty. It was fair game to keep floating the Bush was AWOL meme even though payroll records and an honorable discharge suggest Bush completed his service. As a matter of fact, the media and DNC attack dogs were still digging for payroll records until a few weeks ago - when they were found. Of course finding them didn't add to the preconceived story, so not much was in the news about that. Except for a chastisement of the Pentagon on its need for better recordkeeping. Anyway, the flip flop is on again. In what will be looked back on as one of the dumbest moves in political history, Kerry exposed himself to a devastating political ad by making Vietnam the centerpiece of his campaign. So, we will now be hearing from the meida and the DNC about how this is re-opening old wounds, how it is old news, that it has no bearing on today's issues and events, etc. Well guess what? It's true. Vietnam doesn't matter. Vietnam was almost 40 years ago. Some will argue that if what the Swiftboat Vets say is true, then that reflects poorly on Kerry's character. Personally, I can't hold something from that long ago when he was a young man in difficult times against him. It says a lot more about his character to me that he made such an issue of his service in the first place. What really matters, though, is that the war on terror is right here and now. I don't care if Bush was a slacker national guardsman or if Kerry was a war hero (or not). I care about how we are going to fight this current war. --- Welcome InstaPundit readers! I am new to this as of a few days ago, but I am not going anywhere. So feel free to ake a look around, leave comments, etc. And come on back! By yahoo · 08.06.04 10:45AM · TrackBack (1)
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I agree. Our real enemy does not equivocate. They do not play at war. We need someone who understands who is our real enemy and is willing to lead us in the fight. Unfortunately Mr Kerry has chosen to focus on the four months of his life in which he seemed to do something of value, not matter how staged. Unfortunately, this isn't another scene in his screenplay, it is real. Posted by: wylie Vietnam does matter. Kerry is saying the same things about Iraq that Nixon said about Vietnam, but what I worry about is that he'll run the war on terror like LBJ ran Vietnam, trying to make war kinder and gentler, and bogging us down far more than we are at present. Posted by: AST AST - Of course Vietnam matters in the literal sense. You are literally saying what I am saying figuratively - that what matters is how the current war will be fought. In your calculation, Kerry's comments are comparable to those of Nixon and you expect his actions to be like those of LBJ. I can't disagree with that - but it doesn't negate my point either, since it deals with what Kerry is doing now to predict what he would do if elected. You aren't saying that him being a war hero means he would be a great president or vice versa. Posted by: infidel cowboy If Kerry would stop basing his whole campaign on his Vietnam experience, your statements would be more salient to the actual situation. But if Kerry is saying he should be elected because he's a war hero, and if he faked his legacy of heroism, I call that highly pertinent to the campaign. Instead of underhanded legal threats, Kerry should face his accusers head on, and get the true facts in front of the people. Posted by: Legion Vietnam matters to those who were there at the time, both in the field and on the home front. That's why we're all jumped up about it today. For the longest time, it was conventional wisdom that Vietnam was a mistake, a war we shouldn't have gotten into, and in several ways, that's correct. But there's an underlying question that resonates today: Is it worth going to war to fulfill a country's aims, when the affect on those who fight it are little or non-existent? There are worthy geopolitical reasons for invading Iraq: to resolve the repeated violations of UN resolutions for 12 years, to ensure the dismantling of the WMD programs, to gather information on terror groups and their finances, to surround Iran which is trying desperately to go nuclear. But the effect on those who fight the war boils down to this: 900+ soldiers killed and more wounded. Is the sacrifice worth it, and should we continue to sacrifice our brothers and sisters (and speaking personally, I had one cousin fight during the war, and another cousin going over in January, so, yes, I'm affected) to ensure that our country's goals are met? In Vietnam, we faced a similar problem: should we sacrifice our soldiers to contain the spread of communism? As in Iraq, only those soldiers affected by this question were sent home in body bags and on stretchers. These are the questions that are not being considered underneath the questions about Kerry's service record, and his promotion of his record as a reason to vote for him. Posted by: Bill Peschel I grow weary of people telling me that Viet Nam does not matter for several reasons. For one, there were valuable lessons to learn there about when, why, and how to fight a war. Most seem to have gone unnoticed except in the abstract, e.g., "war is bad" mantra of the left today. Second, there are many refugees from Viet Nam now living in the US who think it still matters a great deal that the US abandoned them and they lost their homeland. Third, there is no statute of limitations on things like war crimes and murder which Kerry has both been accused of and admitted to. Getting older and "growing" does not excuse horrific behavior and heinous crimes. And finally, I served in Viet Nam both in the Navy and as a civilian contractor and it was a part of my life for more than 6 years. I cannot just throw it away as if it never happened. I do agree that we must meet the challenge of the threats that confront us today, but I further submit that 55,000 men lost their lives in 'Nam and that was a pretty serious threat too. Some things like values and character never change. Posted by: Scaramonga Scaramonga - I appreciate your comments. Again, I acknowledge that in black and white terms, of course Vietnam matters. It left an idelible mark on our nation's history. It matters in that it shaped our politics for a long time. My figurative title is speaking only in terms of the current conflict. To me, what Bush or Kerry were doing individually back then doesn't matter much. Bush is evidence of this - he didn't fight in Vietnam, but has performed admirably in this current war. Kerry did fight, but I doubt his ability to lead us in the war on terror. Posted by: infidel cowboy For the most part, I have to agree that VietNam is old news, but some of Kerry's activities, while in the Naval Reserve, draw serious reflection and could stand some "sunshine" to clear the "air". I really don't want another major unanswered allegation hanging around into a Kerry presidency, like Clinton had (remember Paula Jones). Posted by: J_Crater I agree that Kerry or Bush's VietNam related record is not important to a decision to vote either of them for President. What is interesting is Kerry and his teams decision to lead with the VietNam theme, both in his stump speeches and even at the convention. If you had knowledge that your "background" could be disputed by others who were there, or for that matter, proven wrong, why the heck would you lead with it? Either you have no such guilt and the story is absolutely true, or you are incredibly cynical. Interesting decision-making and candidate positioning. Posted by: Larmer For some of us, here and start reading) and apparently enhanced the truth about the Posted by: bdfaith Oops. HTML tags don't seem to work in your comments. That blank line in my previous comment was supposed to be a link to http://inbillsworld.blogspot.com/2004/08/john-kerry-unfit-for-command-update-1.html. Posted by: bdfaith Bill - you hit on my point. The issue is character in so much as it relates to his ability to lead our nation today. Posted by: infidel cowboy Post a comment
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